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    Location : Mill Valley, California, United States

    I'm an independent investor. I make my living from the returns on my investments. I work at home, in the northern part of the San Francisco Bay area. I spent most of my career as an executive in high-tech, although I also spent time in banking. Down to one kid in university now!

Suze Stunned

November 17th, 2008 by reality

I occasionally watch the Suze Orman show on CNBC. It is a kind of financial porn, I admit, watching people strip themselves financially naked in front of the TV audience. So I watch with a kind of embarrassed fascination. Anyway, Suze had a woman on last night that even she couldn’t handle. The woman’s name was Dawn. The segment opened with a video of Dawn’s family home. A large house with elaborate landscaping, overfurnished in poor taste (big hair was involved here, too). She is married, with a 7-year old daughter. Dawn owes $900,000 on the house, which she claims is worth about that much. Dawn also has $250,000 in credit card debt, spread over 24 cards, and two car loans. And she is still shopping, Suze reported that the night before the show Dawn had been upset. Because a diamond ring that she wanted had been sold to someone else.

Dawn’s (family) income is $9,000 per month, take home. Loan payments and minimum payments on the credit cards are $19,000 per month. A shortfall of $10,000 per month. Suze explained to Dawn that all the stuff (jewelry, etc.) has to go, she needs to sell the house ASAP, move into a small apartment, and work out a plan with her creditors. Because her income is too high, she can’t get the debts discharged in bankruptcy. Dawn shrugs, she’s not giving up her stuff. “Not going to happen,” she says. Suze explains that she can’t continue this way. Explanations continue, pointing out that she actually doesn’t own anything, she has a negative net worth. Dawn refuses to believe that anyone will take away her house and stuff. She repeats her mantra “Not going to happen.” Not the slightest qualm of spending other people’s money without the slightest intention or ability to repay it, not the slightest twinge of concern about consequences. Suze eventually gives up, stunned and frustrated.

I’m left shaking my head. How many people like Dawn are out there?

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5 Responses

  1. Seeking Solace Says:

    I found your blog while searching on this topic. I was absolutely floored by the stupidity of Dawn. I am also surprised that there isn’t more chatter about her situation.

    I was a bankruptcy attorney for many years and the worst I ever saw was $110K of credit card debt. The client acted exactly like Dawn.

    Sadly, there are many people like that.

  2. reality Says:

    That’s what I was afraid of.

  3. I.D. Says:

    All Dawn has to do is to temporary lose her job. Then her debts are discharged and the mortgage is reduced.

  4. reality Says:

    Yes, and then she’ll get a whole new set of credit cards. Although the timing would be a bit tricky, since the income determination is a 6-month average.

  5. Eric Says:

    I was so angry about “Dawn” I searched the Web to find a place to vent. That irresponsible, greedy lifestyle is being financed on the backs of schlubs like me who pay our bills and live within our means, and in return have watched the value of our homes tank, our IRA’s disappear, and our taxes sure to rise. She might as well have paid for her diamonds right out of my savings account.

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