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  • InLibrisLibertas
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    I'm an independent investor. I make my living from the returns on my investments. I work at home, in the northern part of the San Francisco Bay area, or on my boat which I keep in the British Virgin Islands. I spent most of my career as an executive in high-tech, although I also spent time in banking. Down to one kid in university now!

Is “Real” GDP Real?

October 31st, 2007 by reality

This morning’s 3Q advance real GDP number showed a growth of 3.9%, as against a consensus estimate of 3.4%. This robust performance is entirely attributable to an astoundingly low increase in the GDP deflator , 0.8%, as against expectations of 2% and an average for the last 4 years of 3%. The consensus for nominal GDP was 5.1% and the actual nominal number was 4.7%, below consensus.

Presumably this reflects weakness in the housing markets and “owner’s equivalent rent”, a made-up number which dominates this price index. So I would regard this as a very dubious number. If the GDP deflator had been at its recent average, GDP would have been plus 1% or so, and 2% or so if it were at consensus. Mean reversion is to be expected next quarter, which may well mean a negative number. Or maybe this outlier will be revised away.

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2 Responses

  1. Ed Says:

    If real GDP grew 3.9% then why cut rates? If the outlook is so weak, why are stocks whiskers away from all-time highs? Speculators can’t have it both ways, either stocks don’t reflect the true magnitude of economic woes or the Fed has no legitimate reason to cut. Unless we’re continuing the cycle of fomenting new bubbles to brunt the impact of collapsing old bubbles.

  2. jest Says:

    these numbers are getting increasingly tortured and useless. i don’t know why we even bother anymore.